Nothing about that screams mandatory. Are the numbers from people reporting in from what they've observed in the games? World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. I certainly wouldn't argue against taking IFHE first if you only have a 10 point captain. Most Cleveland captains are not 14 pointers. Sure it's nice to have, but it's not mandatory. Took me a while to realise how to see the actual concealment range rather than just the rating, hoping this might help others learn it a little faster. Thanks for the table Falls USMC and Saint_Ange!. World of Warships Best Ships In Every Tier (2019 Edition) The best ships in World of Warships. I'm trying to reverse a formula out of this. This puts the whole detection scheme in perspective! Are you having trouble hitting targets in World of Warships? Outstanding job!! I'm about to hit 10 points, so the IFHE versus CE issue is super relevant to me. When I play akizuki, sometimes I am rated at higher concealment ratings than ships that outspot me in the game. Surface Detection means the range at which another ship has to be in order for your ship to show up on their radar. However the 5.9km increase on all the other RU DDs was data mined with that number then I confirmed it personally up to tier 6(i think). what do we make of the Developers wanting to nerf ALL cruise! World of Warships Statistics tracker with instant update. I recently sold my New Mexico to buy the Minekaze and Izyaslav. Average damage for me: 58k & highest damage 151k. Could also be the fact that some players are too ignorant to get upgrades, or they are poor, or the worst who use Target Acquisition Mod. No they use it as a Balance parameter and I think it is on a per ship basis. You want Concealment expert & Super Intendant. Thanks. Do you have to have IFHE to play the ship? Does it make quite a bit difference? You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. that is not how the acquisition mod works. It just increases rendering range (the white cone on your minimap). however it seems that at top tier if you stay no more than 8-9km away you should be pretty good. By I love this! Many players don't know how to maximize their builds. The numbers look correct on the rest too but I haven't played the ship very much lately. As for the rating you see, I think it's without Commander skill or Equipment into play. I just had an invisible Nicholas unload 2k+ damage at me inside 8km in my Myoko before he was finally lit - while pointed at him. Absolutley. No. Yes there are times I wish I went full stealth build but having [edited] is totally worth it. 2021-01-24 0.10.0.0 commander skills are updated. ... and there numbers are tied to the ship and not the main battery? ST: 0.10.0 Big Changes to Commander Skill System including Table of Skills / Parameters In the near future, there will be а ST of the updated commander skills system. I'll also use the Des Moines as an example since you don't need IFHE on her. Thank you for the chart, this will be very helpful. I believe their poor (relatively speaking) concealment is due to their larger size and overall horsepower to weight ratios so if they were moving during the tests, I don't know if the number we have for gunfire penalties is "pure". I'm curious as to why people aren't going for full concealment builds, and if not what kind of builds are you using? Also, on the Farragut, the upgraded torps now have a range ~6.9km. Experience epic, free-to-play naval combat when you helm one of over 300 historic vessels in the exciting balance of strategy and real-time combat that World of Warships offers. dot run a full stealth builds I run Basics of Survivability because it makes fires go out sub 20 sec. By now, veterans of the branch are … Welcome to WoWStats.org, a World of Warships Statistics Tracker. Except the 130mm on the Gremy, because they attempt not to nerf premium ships people pay $ for. By Were they also going at top speed? After all that there is no room for stealth, plus your firing so much that it does not matter a whole lot. Now just gotta get to the damn Gearing before they arrive! Destroyers. Destroy Concealment Chart (Round 2!) ; 2020-08-06 New flags will be added later. 51% w/r and 1.2 frags. I was trying to hunt down two Farraguts that were firing their guns at me, yet, I couldn't detect them while they did so. 11.17 or 10.03km depending on skills. For a couple of months now I've been tracking the concealment ratings of cruisers on my team and the opposing team. Well, I did figure with CLs that people didn't have at least 14 point captains in order to get IFHE and CE. World of Warships, strategy, tips, latest news, ship stats, bonus codes, developments and other content. Also, on the Farragut, the upgraded torps now have a range ~6.9km. The Spreadsheet you copied was mine. the answer is simple they band together most of us do not do this. It seems that most people, especially with USN cruisers, do not go for full concealment builds. Perhaps we can possibly throw this on a curve if we also have data from ships with large caliber guns. I have a question about the gunfire concealment penalties.Not sure if the Russian penalties are consistent. But more information is always better. Don't pay much attention to the ratings in general, they can be quite misleading. Get the latest news and developments here and play for free! Also many people don't have a 14 Commander yet to get both IFHE and CE, so they prefer the guaranteed damage of IFHE at the expense of a bit of stealth. That results in your radar range exceeding detection range, which is a game changer. I assume my spreadsheet is correct but have never tested the gremy as I do not own one. Here you can check any World of Warships players stats and progression. (your seen as a glorified Radar floating platform). This in not IJN DD with 100mm guns that pen 32 mm armor. With 6 inch shells IFHE is mandatory. Currently 15 points with concealment. On to the data, it is interesting to know the information that you have gathered. the BBs losing concealment I care about though not that much . Please ignore my last post :-). Today would like to update you on the changes weve made since the initial announcement. Tallin, Riga and Petropavlovsk can be quite stealthy in it's own class, (Petropavlovsk with full concealment can reach a detect of 12.4km). Get the latest news and developments here and play for free! I'm sorry, but ship concealment is ridiculous. ; 2020-06-11 Ship Comparison added for testing. Are the numbers from people reporting in from what they've observed in the games? Very, very excited for the new DD line. If you gather the data i will change it on my spreadsheet. for to long DD captains have yelled over us to get their way . put a copy in drive and I keep mine as an open doc which I have updated with buffs/nerfs/ and new ships. I have a question about the gunfire concealment penalties. I'm glad I didn't buy it for my Atago now. Awesome job!! ; 2020-04-30 Google Ad enabled by default while making adjustment. IFHE. World of Warships Best Ships In Every ... Big guns with great concealment for it’s size, the Zao can sneak into range and deal some big damage before you even notice she’s there. I started playing the USN line before even knowing about this mechanic as I loved their rapid firing guns. some of us need to ask why they get their way so often and we do not! It is basically useless and you should run the concealment module on everything. Feel free to opt in or out. I have thought about running Basics of Survivability, maybe I'll give that a try. I've broken 100k with it, with my top game being 102k. Her size means that she will take quite a few hits in a gunfight. I'm trying to reverse a formula out of this. Full concealment build gives her a rating of 63 which translates to a detection range of 10.6km. You can not be spotted outside of your surface detection range by another surface vessel regardless of what kind of modules or captain skills the enemy has acquired. One thing that could be added is how much range is dropped when using smoke screen, aka detection range when in smoke screen and firing. ... but the guns on Gremyashchy are also 130 mm and the sheet has it listed for +3.8 km. Edinburgh will feel familiar to captains progressing up the British cruiser line; her four turrets of triple 152mm barrels are identical to the configuration of her immediate predecessor, Fiji.In point of fact, Edinburgh has only a few upgrades from Fiji, but those upgrades make a measurable difference in her effectiveness. Saint_Ange!. You can let fires burn and be ok. Commander Skills World of Warships - full descriptions for the WoWS commander skills, play the free multiplayer pc game about battleships with your friends Otherwise, 100% of your shells will shatter vs most t 8-10 BB's and a majority of cruisers at t10. If you run full concealment on your Cleveland then your radar range is only 100m shorter than your detection range, which is pretty handy. World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. I would think that you would want to use a full concealment build on cruisers, especially USN cruisers given their relatively shorter gun ranges at their respective tiers. In my limited experience, my bad games are where I do something dumb and get deleted early, so I'm leaning towards CE. 127 mm => ~3.8 km (Tier VII-X IJN DDs, Tier V-X USN DDs, Chester, and Atlanta), 130 mm => ~5.9 km (Tier V-X VMF DDs ---- which is a huge jump in detection so such a small jump in caliber). Moskva's and Stalingrad's concealment is rather huge at 14.1km. i would think the same thing, but i dont have a sims to test it myself. You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. ST 0.10.0, changes to new skill system Commanders! I guess everybody is getting AFT first but I find it hard to believe that nobody else has at least a 14 point captain. You're just not going to do as much damage unless you start a LOT of fires. For a couple of months now Ive been tracking the concealment ratings of cruisers on my team and the opposing team. To get any performance from 152mm & 155mm cruiser guns IFHE is mandatory, unless it is under the 1/4 pen rule. Wondering what the testing parameters are that gave the VMFs such a weird concealment penalty. Here you can track any World of Warships players statistics. Thunderer exists as the sister-ship of the Tier X U.K. battleship, Conqueror.As such, she shares many of Conqueror's in-game performance characteristics and weaknesses. I think @crzyhawk was being literal as far as IFHE not being required or mandatory. On the Farragut also, number that seems to be thrown around is 10.5km to 12.5 km effective firing concealed. http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/59115-safe-lead-room-for-stealth-torps/. I always tell people who complain about USN CLs that they need to go full concealment. And how it revitalized my passion for USN DDs Sign in to follow this . Destroy Concealment Chart (Round 2!) Thanks. Falls and myself both took copies from the original poster( just_a_coconut) who has quit updating it. Those ratings are misleading. ... but the guns on Gremyashchy are also 130 mm and the sheet has it listed for +3.8 km.Wondering what the testing parameters are that gave the VMFs such a weird concealment penalty. ... which are woefully underpowered for their respective tiers — and they lack concealment. Either way feel free to use it however you wish. This was found through supertesting and press releasing the new ships to community contributors (Youtubers, streamers, etc.). Cruisers get “hydroacoustic search” consumable that can temporary this proximity spot to 3.48km for ships and 2.52km for torpedoes. IFHE is far from required before concealment. Unfortunately, I'm still in that no man's land range on them as Captain Powers (yes, his last name is Powers ... kinda scored on that one ;) ) still doesn't have enough points for AFT and using the Clemson, but I look forward to getting AFT on the Nicholas to try this mechanic out! I don't run stealth on the captain because I run Basics of Survivability, it makes the fires go out sub 20 sec. At Tier 8+, we should all keep in mind that the enemy may have the increased acquisition range upgrade equipped. According to the captain skills, small-caliber guns are 155 mm and under so it seems weird that their concealment penalties for gunfire are in the same range as cruisers (~5.9 km) when the largest guns they have go up to 130 mm while cruisers at tier III onward are 140 mm and up. They did keep all "new" 130mm guns the same at the nerfed 5.9km rating. According the information I have seen (I think it was from something I got to through one of the links in your original chart), increased detection range is entirely based on the bore size of the guns. Thank you for correcting me! This gives her a concealment rating of 73, which translates to a detection range of 9.1 kilometers. Outfit your fleet with flags, camouflages, modifications, talented Commanders, and more! I've seen well over a hundred other Clevelands either on my team or the opposing team and not a single one had a concealment rating higher than 66. How to view your concealment range to avoid being spotted. Made a short tutorial "World of Warships concealment and spotting" Thought this might be handy for the community. So you are going to rely solely on fire damage on tier 10 battleships that will shatter ALL your shells AND have a built in 50% reduction in fire chance? So I guess it isn't mandatory, but it sure does help to improve a 48% potato like me. Full AA build (Steven Seagall(SS) Expert loader, Expert Marksman, Super Intendant, Concealment, AFT, BFT, Jack of All trade). I've personally experienced this once in my Atlanta. There's no real formula, they just bumped up the numbers for the 130mms. On 9/22/2018 at 8:35 AM, jags_domain said: On 9/22/2018 at 10:28 AM, dEsTurbed1 said: On 9/21/2018 at 3:03 PM, RenamedUser_1001278837 said: On 9/24/2018 at 8:18 AM, Whiskey_Rebel said. farther more I believe BB players and cruise captains need to put aside our differences in order to make our voices heard . Do you all of a sudden go blind and you can't see 100+ ships? Awesome post. And how it revitalized my passion for USN DDs. One thing that could be added is how much range is dropped when using smoke screen, aka detection range when in smoke screen and firing. These are superiors shells that don't go any were near that pen without. Referencing the original post regarding lower stealth ratings, could just be the case of people running the double rudder on some ships, vs a full stealth build. I actually played Dallas and Helena without IFHE because I went with CE first. because DDs players are crying. Moskva's and Stalingrad's concealment is rather huge at 14.1km. But I discovered this mechanic via some Youtube videos and now am absolutely in love with this line. How can a ship vanish off my screen when they are within a few meters? I've yet to see any other Des Moines with concealment as good as mine. They pull a Houdini, then you get torpedoed. Veteran Cleveland captains will find themselves in unfamiliar territory after Update 0.7.5, as the most popular cruiser in World of Warships moves from its old home at Tier VI to new digs at Tier VIII.No longer will she be able to bully inter-war cruisers and dreadnoughts; Cleveland must now square off against her World War II contemporaries, including some very formidable … Destroy Concealment Chart (Round 2!) Perhaps we can possibly throw this on a curve if we also have data from ships with large caliber guns.So far we've got that... 102 mm => ~3.4 km (Tier II-IV USN DDs, Tier II-IV VMF DDs, and tier I-II cruisers), 120 mm => ~3.6 km (Tier II-VI IJN DDs, and Tier I-II IJN CA), 127 mm => ~3.8 km (Tier VII-X IJN DDs, Tier V-X USN DDs, Chester, and Atlanta)130 mm => ~5.9 km (Tier V-X VMF DDs ---- which is a huge jump in detection so such a small jump in caliber). It’s also good to mention the “Situational awareness” perk (captain’s tier 1 perk). One regards the grind to the top tier battleship, and the other answer is in regard to the ship that is most competitively viable In terms of grinding, the French line would be the easiest. You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. Just wondering. Of course, if you do not want to see 100k+ damage games, pick concealment first. 2020-04-18 Ads added, disabled by default. According to the captain skills, small-caliber guns are 155 mm and under so it seems weird that their concealment penalties for gunfire are in the same range as cruisers (~5.9 km) when the largest guns they have go up to 130 mm while cruisers at tier III onward are 140 mm and up. Concealment, on average they have a larger detection compared to other nations. By the way, to those working on the spreadsheet, would it be possible to add the Atlanta in here? Wow, looks like Russian dd's get screwed for invis shooting. They didn't touch the Gremy because it's a pre-order premium that was not underperforming. the cruise on the other hand should be able with or with out Radar too make DDs pay for hunting BB beyond the limits of their support . You must give some input for application: - shell flight time (displayed when you press the ALT key in the game) - the type of ship to which you aim - estimated speed … You can update your stats instantly, just close your wows client and click "take snapshot" in the player's profile page. As such, it is important to position properly and use concealment when faced with overwhelming odds. The devs felt that VMF DD invisi-fire was too broken and thus nerfed it by increasing the range their detection is increased by. For example, my Cleveland has a full concealment build, using Concealment System Modification 1, the captain skill Concealment Expert, and I always use camouflage. World of Warships / Destroyers. Not sure if the Russian penalties are consistent. OP, I copied you. Using it you can hit the target in the first attempt. You don't HAVE to have it in order to play a CL. I would question the Sims having a 4.0km increased detection range on firing guns. Concealment, on average they have a larger detection compared to other nations. With Wooster it's even better, your radar range is 400m greater than your detection range so you can radar before you're even detected. I also run AFT and Superintendent or BFT. The Sims has 127mm guns, so it should have the same increased detection range of any ship with 127mm guns, 3.8km. Aim Assistant for WoWs is a non-official application which made shooting in World of Warships much easier. ... even beating that of a Hindenburg fully kitted out for concealment. On the Farragut also, number that seems to be thrown around is 10.5km to 12.5 km effective firing concealed. Getting your concealment down to or less than your radar range, plus being able to disengage and go dark more quickly are the main advantages to me. Smoke deployment time is 20 seconds for all destroyers and lasts between 65 and 97 seconds depending on the tier. Despite the similarities, Thunderer possesses certain distinguishable traits that differentiate her. I just saw a streamer testing the Agir twice then the same streamer tested the new soviet heavy cruiser Riga. Just wondering. It's still pulling 44k damage/game. Aaron_S_Merrill, September 21, 2018 in Cruisers. IFHE is tempting, but a 12% reduction to a Buddy's base detect range of 13.4 km would get me down to 11.8, which seems huge. Tallin, Riga and Petropavlovsk can be quite stealthy in it's own class, (Petropavlovsk with full concealment can reach a detect of 12.4km). Many of the Clevelands are probably from the line split and didn't grind as many battles getting there. So, you may want to subtract 20% from your stealth range when fighting ships of these tiers. Statistics includes charts, achievements and detailed ships stats with changes over time. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've seen at least 100 other Clevelands that have a lower concealment rating than mine; as a matter of fact, I've never seen one with a rating has good as mine. I have 19 point captain for Cleveland, Atlanta, and Worchester. The 10 point captain had IFHE before CE. Thanks for the great info! WoWS 0.10.0.0. Were they also going at top speed?I believe their poor (relatively speaking) concealment is due to their larger size and overall horsepower to weight ratios so if they were moving during the tests, I don't know if the number we have for gunfire penalties is "pure". I don't think those numbers can be trusted. It also helps in learning how to shoot. Followers 3. Feel free to opt in or out. I also feel that we as players should note hum among our CCs are in open support of these nerfs and stop supporting their work if they don't learn to be more broad minded . There are two different answers to this question. Immediately, players will notice that she has access to the Defensive AA Fire consumable. Maybe they're getting FP or Manual Fire Control for AA I suppose. I always go for as much concealment on my Cruisers as I can get ..like my DDs, I always go with anything that makes the Cruiser guns hit harder and concealment is paramount especially at higher tiers, I started using concealment early on my Cruisers V and up, this will translate into being part of your playstyle giving you the ability to go dark if your not in Detection range, in game click on the icon just above mini map this will show ships detection ranges and you can also make it so there visable as line circle ranges if you want. im coming to the conclusion that DD players have more support among the CC . She uses 127mm guns and essentially plays like a fat slow turning destroyer. Not that I'm complaining, it gives me an advantage on a regular basis lol. We would like to thank you for your feedback that allowed us to improve the new commander skill system! My Farragut shows 6.4km range on upgraded torps. ****You now need to be level 11****World of Warships concealment tutorial. How does it work? It really is that simple or some don't have a high point captain. Falls_USMC, September 9, 2015 in American Destroyers. I can understand players choosing IFHE first once they have a 10 point captain, but I find it hard to believe so many players don't have 14 point captains. It seems that most people, especially with USN cruisers, do not go for full concealment builds. Both ships have very similar pen but the Riga has substantially better ricochet angles. What I personally recommend for random battles. 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